For his latest “Marketing Today” podcast episode, Alan Hart had the chance to talk with Casey Hurbis, CMO for Quicken Loans. A good bit of their conversation centered on the love and pride both Hurbis and his company, Quicken Loans, have for their hometown of Detroit. In addition to the Motor City, they talked Super Bowl spots, choosing brand partners, and how sometimes, when things get crazy, you’ve just got to “kiss the chaos.”

You can listen to their whole conversation here on MediaPost.